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		<title>Some Things Cannot be Changed</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is another post inspired, in part, by a reader&#8217;s comment.  Deep Throat in the Deep South,1 in a comment rich with interesting Mormon cultural material, wrote the following:
Every blessing we have is predicated upon a law. You break the law, the blessing is gone.
There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another post inspired, in part, by a reader&#8217;s <a href="http://www.poorwayfaringman.net/blog/archives/402/polygyny/comment-page-1#comment-345" target="_blank">comment</a>.  Deep Throat in the Deep South,<sup>1</sup> in a comment rich with interesting Mormon cultural material, wrote the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>Every blessing we have is predicated upon a law. You break the law, the blessing is gone.</p>
<p>There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated— And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated. (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/130/20-21#20" target="_blank">D&amp;C 130: 20-21</a>)<sup>2</sup></p>
<p>One must be intelligent not to confuse administrative actions with the Gospel of Jesus Christ (i.e. truth) in its purest mode. There is a different between administration of earthly issues, the Truth of the Gospel, and, and what I call the “Doctrine of the Culture,” that some people cling to instead of the doctrine.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a Mormon, I struggled with the legalistic LDS belief that all blessings a person receives from God are actually dependent upon his or her obedience to a specific Law (or body of Laws) of Heaven.  The reason I struggled is that I could never pin down exactly what the Law was, despite the fact that I was desperate to follow it.  (That seems to be <a href="http://www.poorwayfaringman.net/blog/archives/441/rules-we-dont-know-about" target="_blank">a common theme</a> in the LDS Church.)<span id="more-457"></span> I studied the teachings of Mormon prophets over the 150+ year life of the LDS Church and found that certain Laws (or doctrines) they emphasized as &#8220;eternal&#8221; and &#8220;fundamental&#8221; to God&#8217;s plan for humanity had changed over time.  This was very distressing to me, as I had been taught my whole life that God&#8217;s Laws are eternal and unchanging, because they are based on Truth, which is eternal.  I was taught that the doctrines of Mormonism embody the sum of those unchanging Laws.  Clearly, however, doctrines had been changing and evolving the whole time.<sup>3</sup></p>
<p>Once I realized this was the case, the contradiction between reality and what I had been taught and always believed about the LDS Church caused me to lose much of my confidence in the Church as the one true organization of God on Earth. I tried to figure out ways to reconcile the contradictions, trying to make distinctions between them that allowed both to be true at the same time.  My mind was working in ways similar to Deep Throat above, conceptually separating &#8220;doctrine&#8221; and &#8220;Truth&#8221; from &#8220;Mormon culture&#8221; and &#8220;folklore&#8221; in an effort to define the consistent Laws in LDS teachings upon which all blessings are predicated.<sup>4</sup>  Despite my best efforts, I was largely unsuccessful at convincing myself that the contradictions weren&#8217;t really contradictions, and that there was a consistent Law of the Gospel buried in Mormon beliefs.</p>
<p>When the believers in my family learned of my confusion, they pulled all of the strings they could to get me some help.  They put me in contact with Max Anderson, an LDS apologist, who had published <a href="http://www.shields-research.org/Books/Polygamy_Story/LDS-Funde_Polygamy_Story.htm" target="_blank">a book</a> defending mainstream LDS beliefs by deconstructing Mormon Fundamentalist claims to divine authority.  Max and his wife were very kind to me, and they had me over to their house on several occasions to sit in their living room and talk through my concerns.  A few times, Max invited other apologists to join us and discuss issues they had researched.  These meetings presented me with various ways of parsing the contradictions so that they made more sense.</p>
<p>One meeting in particular really blew my mind.  At that meeting, Eldon Watson, who had compiled <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=_joqHQAACAAJ&amp;source=gbs_ViewAPI" target="_blank">a book</a> of Brigham Young&#8217;s writings, attempted the mindbending feat of explaining how everything Brigham Young taught is in harmony with mainstream LDS beliefs about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  I was flabbergasted to learn that what made it all fit together for him was to draw a distinction between &#8220;LDS doctrine&#8221; and &#8221;Truth&#8221;.  The key, he explained, is to understand that Truth is eternal and unchanging, but LDS doctrine is only an expression of the Church&#8217;s acknowledged beliefs at a specific moment in time.  Thus, LDS doctrine when Brigham Young was alive included polygamy as a requirement to get into the highest part of heaven, but current LDS doctrine does not.</p>
<p>This idea was shocking to me because, despite its (semi)effectiveness as a logical solution to the problem of contradiction in authoritative LDS teachings, the concept is clearly heretical.  All LDS Church leaders I know of, and regular members alike, have talked about LDS doctrine as embodying &#8220;the fullness of the Gospel&#8221;.  Any past changes have been carefully characterized as <em>adding more previously unrevealed Truth </em>to the doctrine, because Truth is what LDS doctrine is all about.  Watson was explaining that doctrine freely changes with the needs of the Church at the given moment&#8211;things that are Truth, like the divine nature of polygamy, can be taken out and disavowed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that Watson, in offering up his idea, was mainly just trying to accommodate the fact that Church President Gordon B. Hinckley had recently blurted out, on international television, that polygamy is not doctrinal<sup>5</sup> when it had clearly been doctrinal (though not always practiced) during the previous 100+ years of LDS Church existence.  I think, however, that drawing a distinction between doctrine and Truth is just an apologetic invention, and has never been part of Church teachings. As far as I know, President Brigham Young never made that distinction, and Apostle Boyd K. Packer (currently the next in line to be President of the Church) doesn&#8217;t seem to have gotten the memo either, because he has taught that <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=f51a425e0848b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD" target="_blank">Some things cannot be changed. Doctrine cannot be changed.</a> And understandably so.  Malleable doctrine undermines the authority of Church leaders, because it means that at least sometimes what they teach is not the real Truth, and therefore need not be obeyed.  This is also the reason why Mormons almost never admit (with any specificity) that Church leaders make mistakes.  Changing doctrine is just a slow-motion mistake.</p>
<p>Funny, though, because now that I have apostatized, I agree with Elden Watson.</p>
<p>-PWM</p>
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<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_457" class="footnote">Yeah, the irony of an apparently straight-laced Mormon naming him or herself Deep Throat hasn&#8217;t escaped me.  I assume the name is referring somehow to the Watergate informant, rather than the classic porn movie from which the informant&#8217;s pseudonym was derived.  Then again, either reference is kind of random.</li><li id="footnote_1_457" class="footnote">By the way, this section of the Doctrine &amp; Covenants (which is LDS scripture on par with the Bible or the Book of Mormon) is a treasure trove of canonized Mormon oddities, like Joseph Smith&#8217;s unfulfilled prediction about growing unrest in the American South (that eventually developed into the Civil War) being a precursor to the second coming of Jesus Christ, his cautiously hedged prediction that Jesus Christ&#8217;s second coming would happen prior to his 85th birthday (1890), his explanation for why the Holy Ghost is incorporeal, his insight into the planets that God and the angels live on, his view of what the afterlife is generally like, and other fun stuff.  Definitely worth a read, since these things are part of the &#8220;meat&#8221; of the Gospel that Mormons don&#8217;t share with outsiders very often (the &#8220;milk&#8221; always comes first).</li><li id="footnote_2_457" class="footnote">For example, the <a href="http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/essays/mormonpolygamy.htm" target="_blank">importance of polygamy</a> in attaining the highest glory in the Celestial Kingdom, the meaning and importance of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom#Application_by_Joseph_Smith.2C_Jr." target="_blank">Doctrine &amp; Covenants 89 (the &#8220;Word of Wisdom&#8221;)</a>, the role of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement" target="_blank">Blood Atonement</a> in the Gospel, the meaning and importance of Joseph Smith&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Vision#Interpretations_and_responses_to_the_vision" target="_blank">First Vision</a>, the role of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer_stone_(Latter_Day_Saints)" target="_blank">seer stones</a> and other implements of folk magic in the Gospel, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#Racial_restriction_policy" target="_blank">role and meaning of race</a> in determining worthiness to hold the Priesthood, the ancestral origins of the <a href="http://webspace.webring.com/people/np/potai/indian.htm" target="_blank">American Indians</a>, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_geography_model" target="_blank">location of lands and people</a> featured in Book of Mormon, the <a href="http://www.i4m.com/think/temples/temple_changes.htm" target="_blank">eternal and unchanging nature </a>of LDS temple ceremonies and other Priesthood ordinances, etc.</li><li id="footnote_3_457" class="footnote">I never went as far as Deep Throat has, however, in making distinctions between “administration of earthly issues” and “the Gospel of Jesus Christ (i.e. truth) in its purest mode”, probably because that contradicts the basic Mormon belief that God doesn’t give any exclusively “earthly” rules–they are all applicable to spiritual matters (see <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/29/34-35#29" target="_blank">D&amp; C 29:34-35</a>).</li><li id="footnote_4_457" class="footnote"><strong>Larry King</strong>: You condemn it [polygamy].</p>
<p><strong>Gordon B. Hinckley</strong>: I condemn it, yes, as a practice, because I think it is not doctrinal. It is not legal. And this church takes the position that we will abide by the law. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, magistrates in honoring, obeying and sustaining the law.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lds-mormon.com/lkl_00.shtml">–1998 Larry King interview of Gordon B. Hinckley, prophet and President of the LDS Church</a></li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Polygyny?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mom and dad married in the Salt Lake Temple at the ages of 18 and 19, respectively. They were civilly divorced when I was still a little kid.
By &#8220;civilly divorced&#8221;, I don&#8217;t mean to say that the divorce process was completed in a civil manner, without petty bickering (though I believe that is true). [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom and dad married in the Salt Lake Temple at the ages of 18 and 19, respectively. They were civilly divorced when I was still a little kid.</p>
<p>By &#8220;civilly divorced&#8221;, I don&#8217;t mean to say that the divorce process was completed in a civil manner, without petty bickering (though I believe that is true). I mean they were legally divorced. Free, in the eyes of the state, to remarry and move on with their lives.</p>
<p>This is an important point, because their divorce was not fully recognized by the LDS Church. <span id="more-402"></span>Their marriage in the temple was both a civil marriage and a religious marriage&#8211;a ritual (or &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinance_(Latter_Day_Saints)" target="_blank">ordinance</a>&#8220;) in which my mom and dad had been &#8220;sealed&#8221; to each other, not just &#8220;till death do <a href="http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2005/03/19/till-death-do-us-part/" target="_blank">[them]</a> part&#8221;, but &#8220;<a href="http://www.lds-temple.org/index.php?page=misc" target="_blank">for time and all eternity</a>.&#8221; From the perspective of the LDS Church, they continued to be sealed together for eternity as husband and wife, despite the civil divorce.</p>
<p>I think there is a similar dynamic at play in <a href="http://www.archatl.com/offices/tribunal/drm_c.html" target="_blank">Catholic &#8220;sacramental&#8221; marriages that end in divorce</a>&#8211;the divorce isn&#8217;t recognized by the Catholic Church, and any remarriages occur with that in mind. <span>In the Catholic Church, if the marriage is sacramental, neither of the divorcees will be married in the Church again. In the LDS Church, it&#8217;s a bit different. My parents&#8217; story continues:</span></p>
<div>Years after the divorce, my mom remarried, not in an LDS temple. In fact, when she ended her marriage to my dad, she also ended her participation in the LDS Church. My dad had been remarried too, not long after the divorce, but his remarriage was performed in the Salt Lake Temple, and as a result he was sealed in an eternal marriage to a lovely woman who had never been married before.</div>
<p>For those of you keeping score, in the eyes (and the records) of the LDS Church, my dad was now simultaneously eternally married to two living women, and both of those women were eternally married to my dad, and nobody else.</p>
<p>Around the year 2000, decades after my parents&#8217; civil divorce, my mom&#8217;s new husband realized that in the Mormon world, she had been living as my dad&#8217;s &#8220;spiritual&#8221; wife the whole time. He was thoroughly creeped out, and very dismayed that there had been no &#8220;temple divorce&#8221;. He asked my mom to make sure that the temple divorce was made official, so she looked into it.</p>
<p>Surprisingly (to me, at least), the polygamous union was not just a record-keeping anomaly, and dissolving it wasn&#8217;t a mere formality that the Church could take care of right away. No, here is what had to happen for the Church to acknowledge that she was no longer my dad&#8217;s wife:</p>
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<li>She had to obtain, from her local LDS bishop, an application form asking the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Presidency_(LDS_Church)" target="_blank">First Presidency</a> to cancel her sealing to my dad;</li>
<li>The application form required a letter from her, addressed to the First Presidency, explaining why she wanted to have the sealing canceled;</li>
<li>The application form also required a letter from my dad, also addressed to the First Presidency, agreeing to cancellation of the sealing;</li>
<li>The completed application could only be submitted for First Presidency review by the senior local ecclesiastical authority, the stake president, who was required to interview her and attach his own written approval before sending off the application.</li>
<li>The First Presidency, in its sole discretion, would decide whether or not to cancel the sealing.</li>
<li>She would receive written confirmation of the First Presidency&#8217;s decision.</li>
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<p>To dissolve the polygamous sealing, my mom had to get the permission of not only <span style="text-decoration: underline;">five</span> different leaders of the Church, but also her already remarried ex-husband. And it wasn&#8217;t a quick process. Step 6 was completed a full nine months from the time that my mom initiated Step 1 (and it was on the desk of the First Presidency for six of those months).</p>
<p>If, as President Gordon B. Hinckley (whose signature, incidentally, is on my mom&#8217;s sealing cancellation letter) once asserted, in the LDS Church the practice of polygamy is &#8220;not doctrinal&#8221;,<sup>1</sup> then what do we call the doctrine supporting the LDS Church practice of sealing my dad to both my mom and my stepmom?</p>
<p>-PWM</p>
<p>______________________</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_402" class="footnote"><strong>Larry King</strong>: You condemn it [polygamy].</p>
<p><strong>Gordon B. Hinckley</strong>: I condemn it, yes, as a practice, because I think it is not doctrinal. It is not legal. And this church takes the position that we will abide by the law. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, magistrates in honoring, obeying and sustaining the law.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lds-mormon.com/lkl_00.shtml">&#8211;1998 Larry King interview of Gordon B. Hinckley, prophet and President of the LDS Church</a></li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>You are Laman and Lemuel, not Nephi</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My professor at BYU once asked us to read the first couple of chapters of the Book of Mormon&#8211;the First Book of Nephi. The book starts with a story about Nephi&#8217;s father, a well-heeled man named Lehi, who has a vision from God, in which the Lord tells him to pack up his things, leave [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.poorwayfaringman.net/blog/archives/123/the-path-from-lds-to-flds" target="_blank">My professor at BYU</a> once asked us to read the first couple of chapters of the Book of Mormon&#8211;the <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/1" target="_blank">First Book of Nephi</a>. The book starts with a story about Nephi&#8217;s father, a well-heeled man named Lehi, who has a vision from God, in which the Lord tells him to pack up his things, leave his home in Jerusalem, and depart with his family into the wilderness. Lehi obeys, but some of his sons are harder to convince than others that Jerusalem is to be destroyed and that wandering in the wilderness is the will of God for them. The skeptical sons in the family are Laman and Lemuel, and the believers are Nephi and Sam. My professor asked us, as devout Mormons, which of the brothers we were like.</p>
<p>In case you are wondering, the right answer is always &#8220;Nephi&#8221;.<span id="more-118"></span></p>
<p>When my professor heard that answer from us, he laughed. He told us that if a guy like Lehi were to tell us to leave our homes and go camping with him for an indefinite period of time to escape the evils of our community in Provo, Utah, we&#8211;along with most other Mormons&#8211;would refuse out-of-hand, saying something like</p>
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<div id="1_ne/17/22" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">We know that the people in Provo are a righteous people; for they keep the statutes and judgments of the Lord, and all his commandments, and go to church every Sunday, according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ; wherefore, we know that they are a righteous people; and you are judging them (which you are not supposed to do), and you are only trying to lead us away because you think we are gullible.</div>
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<div onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">Very similar words, of course, are spoken by the rebellious (and latently evil) Laman and Lemuel in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/17/22#22" target="_blank">1Ne 17:22</a>:</div>
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<div onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">22 And we know that the people who were in the land of Jerusalem were a righteous people; for they kept the statutes and judgments of the Lord, and all his commandments, according to the law of Moses; wherefore, we know that they are a righteous people; and our father hath judged them, and hath led us away because we would hearken unto his words&#8230;</div>
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<p>My professor thought that we students, and most other mainstream Mormons, would probably not have seriously considered following Lehi, because we were already convinced that our church leaders, and LDS culture along with them, were on the right path. We fully bought into the mainstream LDS idea that if we stick with the herd, we cannot be led astray.<sup>1</sup><sup>2</sup><sup>3</sup><sup>4</sup></p>
<p>Nephi, on the other hand, was not dogmatic about the perfect safety of sticking with the Lord&#8217;s chosen people. Even Laman and Lemuel, despite their complaining, still abandoned the chosen people of God to follow Lehi into the wilderness.</p>
<p>My professor&#8217;s point was that we shouldn&#8217;t give Laman and Lemuel such a hard time for their difficulty conforming to the expectations of their highly non-conformist father Lehi. To ignore or discard the expectations of one&#8217;s culture is abnormal and often imprudent. Laman and Lemuel were normal and prudent, operating within the paradigm in which they were raised. They had firm concepts of right and wrong, and they believed the religious dogma they were taught when they were young. Just like most Mormons.</p>
<p>-PWM</p>
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<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_118" class="footnote"> &#8220;The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty.&#8221; &#8211;President Wilford Woodruff, Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in <em>Deseret Evening News,</em> October 11, 1890, p. 2.; see also <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/od/1" target="_blank">D&amp;C Official Declaration &#8212; 1</a></li><li id="footnote_1_118" class="footnote">“Joseph the Prophet … said, ‘Brethren, remember that the majority of this people will never go astray; and as long as you keep with the majority you are sure to enter the celestial kingdom.’ ” &#8211;Apostle Orson Hyde, <em>Deseret News: Semi-Weekly,</em> June 21, 1870, p. 3.</li><li id="footnote_2_118" class="footnote">“I have heard the Prophet speak in public on many occasions. In one meeting I heard him say: ‘I will give you a key that will never rust,—if you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.’ The history of the Church has proven this to be true.” &#8211;William G. Nelson, in “Joseph Smith, the Prophet,” <em>Young Woman’s Journal,</em> Dec. 1906, p. 543; paragraph divisions altered.</li><li id="footnote_3_118" class="footnote">“I heard the Prophet Joseph say that he would give the Saints a key whereby they would never be led away or deceived, and that was: The Lord would never suffer a majority of this people to be led away or deceived by imposters, nor would He allow the records of this Church to fall into the hands of the enemy.” &#8211;Ezra T. Clark, “The Testimony of Ezra T. Clark,” July 24, 1901, Farmington, Utah; in Heber Don Carlos Clark, Papers, ca. 1901–74, typescript, Church Archives.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>The Path from LDS to FLDS</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was a BYU student, one of my professors was a fundamentalist-leaning member of the LDS Church. He took very seriously everything that LDS prophets have taught, from the beginning of the movement to the present. And LDS prophets have taught a lot, particularly in the beginning. Back then, they were real micromanagers, with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a BYU student, one of my professors was a fundamentalist-leaning member of the LDS Church. He took very seriously everything that LDS prophets have taught, from the beginning of the movement to the present. And LDS prophets have taught a lot, particularly in the beginning. Back then, they were real micromanagers, with an opinion on everything, and the expectation that their directions would be obeyed as the Word of God to His People (see e.g., <a href="http://scriptures.byu.edu/jod/jodhtml.php?vol=19&amp;disc=13" target="_blank">this 1877 sermon</a>, which is full of prophetic advice on domestic matters, including how to properly bake bread and feed children).</p>
<p><span id="more-123"></span>My professor was in a bit of a bind, however, because Mormons today don&#8217;t have prophets who give out that kind of advice, and modern Mormons live in all sorts of different places&#8211;not strictly the agrarian communities of the western United States, so the 19th-century advice doesn&#8217;t fit reality very well. My professor, however, solved that problem by making his reality fit the advice. He bought land 3 hours away from campus, out in the middle of nowhere, and lived a 19th-century lifestyle there. He was dead serious about following the prophets and being right with God.</p>
<p>Most modern members of the LDS Church do not go to these lengths to heed prophetic advice. The common reason for this is that the living prophets trump the dead prophets, and therefore the way of life lived by the living prophets reflects the &#8220;right&#8221; way to live. The living prophets and apostles are former surgeons, newspapermen, car dealers, teachers, etc., so bread-baking advice that the Prophet Brigham Young gave in the year 18-whatever probably isn&#8217;t applicable anymore.</p>
<p>Probably.</p>
<p>The uncertainty embodied in that word is a major issue for Mormons who want to be sure they are living in full accordance with the will of God. To be on the safe side, some, like my professor, just go ahead and follow all of Brigham Young&#8217;s advice as if it was prophetic guidance from God. Most Mormons acknowledge that Brigham Young (and other past Church) were prophets of God, but they just arbitrarily pick and choose which advice they will take seriously enough to follow. Such pickers and choosers are, of course, never on completely safe ground. The clearest rule a Mormon has to work with in figuring out if a given statement from an LDS prophet is a revelation from God, or just some guy talking, is a statement made by the Prophet Joseph Smith himself (in his own defense against accusations of being a false prophet): &#8220;A prophet [is] a prophet only when he [is] acting as such.&#8221; (<em>History of the Church</em>,<em> </em>5:265)</p>
<p>The question of when an LDS prophet is &#8220;acting as such&#8221; is the key issue for devout Mormons, and unfortunately something that neither the LDS Church nor any LDS prophets so far have had the inclination (or guts?) to opine on with any specificity. They simply refuse to say which &#8220;prophetic&#8221; advice from past prophets is or isn&#8217;t actually a message from God. I think they refuse because (a) they don&#8217;t know, and (b) doing so would confirm the possibility that LDS prophets sometimes think they are channeling the eternal will and mind of God, when they really aren&#8217;t, and that undermines the authority of both the dead prophets and themselves. Whatever the reason for it, the lack of official guidance on what prophetic advice to heed leaves some members of the Church with the sincere belief that a loaf of bread ought to be no thicker than two of Brigham Young&#8217;s hands, and that polygamy is the True form of marriage (even if it is not practiced by the LDS Church today).</p>
<p>Reverence for every word that has fallen from the lips of early Church prophets is something the modern LDS Church and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter_Day_Saints" target="_blank">FLDS</a> or other fundamentalist branches of Mormonism have in common. Both flavors of Mormonism are built on certainty about the nature of God, the purpose of life, the order of the universe, and the early prophets&#8217; connection to God (though only the fundamentalists openly embrace the implications of that). When members of the LDS Church discover contradictions, ambiguities, or ridiculous bullshit in the teachings or policies of the early Church compared to that of the modern Church, their prophets and apostles offer no explanation (in fact, they don&#8217;t even acknowledge a conflict). And then those questioning members, in a sincere attempt to find answers, reach out and find the Mormon fundamentalists there waiting, happy to provide answers that bring the certainty back, and to take the questioning members out of the LDS Church. This connection&#8211;this path between mainstream Mormons and fundamentalist Mormons&#8211;is why the two movements continue to be so intertwined.</p>
<p>Modern leaders of the LDS Church, like the Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley in a <a href="http://www.lds-mormon.com/lkl_00.shtml" target="_blank">1998 interview with Larry King</a>, don&#8217;t appear to perceive this connection. In fact, they seem to be altogether baffled by why people can&#8217;t clearly distinguish between mainstream Mormons and fundamentalist Mormons :</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Larry King</strong>: But when the word ["polygamy"] is mentioned, when you hear the word, you think Mormon, right?</p>
<p><strong>Gordon B. Hinckley</strong>: You do it mistakenly. [Fundamentalists] have no connection with us whatever. They don&#8217;t belong to the church. There are actually no Mormon fundamentalists.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p><strong>Larry King</strong>: President Hinckley, when the press pays attention to [polygamy and Mormon fundamentalism], it does affect you, certainly, in a public relations sense?</p>
<p><strong>Gordon B. Hinckley</strong>: It does, because people mistakenly assume that this church has something to do with it. It has nothing whatever to do with it. It has had nothing to do with it for a very long time. It&#8217;s outside the realm of our responsibility. These people are not members. Any man or woman who becomes involved in it is excommunicated from the church.</p></blockquote>
<p>It isn&#8217;t really fair for Gordon B. Hinckley to say that the LDS Church has &#8220;nothing whatever to do with it&#8221;, when the Church leadership&#8217;s failure to disavow fundamentalist beliefs and past LDS Church practices has caused, and continues to cause, sincere believing Mormons to be curious about, or sometimes to silently support the illegal activities of fundamentalist Mormon churches. And the issue is not &#8220;outside the realm of [the Church's] responsibility,&#8221; since the Church bears responsibility for its continuing contribution to the situation.</p>
<p>For example, LDS Church doctrine has never been officially changed away from its polygamist roots (see e.g., the current version of the Doctrine &amp; Covenants 132: <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/132/34-40#34" target="_blank">34-40</a> and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/132/61-65#61" target="_blank">61-65</a>); only the Church&#8217;s <em>practice</em> of polygamy has changed (and it hasn&#8217;t changed as much as people generally think, but that&#8217;s a topic for a <a href="http://www.poorwayfaringman.net/blog/archives/402/polygyny" target="_blank">future post</a>). With that in mind, excommunicating somebody from the Church (or invoking other forms of discipline) for having been exposed as a participant in Mormon fundamentalism is an act filled with ambiguity, because it is unclear what that discipline means. Is the excommunication simply punishing people who are caught improperly practicing current LDS beliefs, or is the excommunication also supposed to say something about the beliefs themselves? Excommunication from the LDS Church can&#8217;t alter a person&#8217;s beliefs when the Church&#8217;s own scriptures still contain the voice of the Lord clearly declaring those beliefs to be correct.</p>
<p>If the LDS Church really wants to avoid the bad PR that comes with being connected to fundamentalist Mormons, then Church ought to revise its scriptures, have frank discussions with its members and the media about what is and what isn&#8217;t part of the beliefs of the Church. Only then will the Church be able to say, with sincerity (as Gordon B. Hinckley failed to do in the interview above), &#8220;it&#8217;s behind us&#8221;. Until then, it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>-PWM</p>
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